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		<title>By: Deep</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisdeep.com/2008/08/19/to-buy-or-not-to-buy-an-indian-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-241889</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashish - I never knew my W810i had Edge enabled.. speeds were always pathetic hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashish &#8211; I never knew my W810i had Edge enabled.. speeds were always pathetic hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish Patil</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisdeep.com/2008/08/19/to-buy-or-not-to-buy-an-indian-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-241820</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish Patil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is no need to get EDGE activated. Whenever EDGE enabled network is present, its activated without any extra cost or any extra settings. And it uses the same APN as of GPRS.

@Deep: Even your W810i is EDGE enabled (Class 10, 236.8 kbps). And with Vodafone, you should get EDGE speeds, at least in areas like Andheri. I am not sure if all of Mumbai is EDGE enabled. At least I get EDGE signal on W910i with BPL in most of the places, and when I move to Palghar, I get normal GPRS. I have not tried my Vodafone SIM in W910i, and my W800i is not EDGE capable, so not sure about Vodafone&#039;s EDGE coverage.

So as far as EDGE speeds, I don&#039;t think iPhone will make much difference. But when 3G is lunched, the 3.6 Mbps of HSDPA will make the killer difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is no need to get EDGE activated. Whenever EDGE enabled network is present, its activated without any extra cost or any extra settings. And it uses the same APN as of GPRS.</p>
<p>@Deep: Even your W810i is EDGE enabled (Class 10, 236.8 kbps). And with Vodafone, you should get EDGE speeds, at least in areas like Andheri. I am not sure if all of Mumbai is EDGE enabled. At least I get EDGE signal on W910i with BPL in most of the places, and when I move to Palghar, I get normal GPRS. I have not tried my Vodafone SIM in W910i, and my W800i is not EDGE capable, so not sure about Vodafone&#8217;s EDGE coverage.</p>
<p>So as far as EDGE speeds, I don&#8217;t think iPhone will make much difference. But when 3G is lunched, the 3.6 Mbps of HSDPA will make the killer difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashok - Yet to get Edge activated on the phone.. should be done in a day or two. Not expecting any good speeds though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashok &#8211; Yet to get Edge activated on the phone.. should be done in a day or two. Not expecting any good speeds though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisdeep.com/2008/08/19/to-buy-or-not-to-buy-an-indian-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-241757</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GPRS is so slow! Hmmm.. The last time i activated EDGE (Vodafone) a 100 kb page used to take around 20 - 30 secs to load.. How is it out there in Mumbai?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GPRS is so slow! Hmmm.. The last time i activated EDGE (Vodafone) a 100 kb page used to take around 20 &#8211; 30 secs to load.. How is it out there in Mumbai?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisdeep.com/2008/08/19/to-buy-or-not-to-buy-an-indian-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-241755</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paid to stand in Q to create hype? Check this 

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/iPhone-Poland-Launch-Used-Lines-of-Actors-to-Hide-Weak-Demand/?kc=rss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paid to stand in Q to create hype? Check this </p>
<p><a href="http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/iPhone-Poland-Launch-Used-Lines-of-Actors-to-Hide-Weak-Demand/?kc=rss" rel="nofollow">http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/iPhone-Poland-Launch-Used-Lines-of-Actors-to-Hide-Weak-Demand/?kc=rss</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vinay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting coverage on iPhone 3G sensation at http://cellpassion.mobi/ !! 200 people queue outside Delhi Airtel Shop! :-) !! Not bad!

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting coverage on iPhone 3G sensation at <a href="http://cellpassion.mobi/" rel="nofollow">http://cellpassion.mobi/</a> !! 200 people queue outside Delhi Airtel Shop! <img src='http://www.whoisdeep.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  !! Not bad!</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashok - GPRS? I browse all the time using GPRS on my SE W810i and it works fine.. it does not have Edge so it&#039;s bit slow but in iPhone it should work fine.

About photozoom and all - No man, I still love it.. like you said, it&#039;s there in iPod touch and I use it very frequently for browing and all.

Safari - Yes, if you have like 5-6 tabs open with heavy pages (may be say 200 - 300 KB+ each) then it is possible but I personally have not tried it so won&#039;t be able to comment about it.

About apps and all - Well, every phone has their own limitations, they have must have added this restriction keeping security in mind and I am fine with that, app store has great stuff anyways. About other minor things, Yes, they are lacking as mentioned in the list of points but again, I am ok with it. For Indian users these things are important and requires. Let&#039;s see how iPhone works for Indian market.

About not being able to type without looking at the screen - Man this problem is going to remain in ALL touch screen phones. Be it iPhone, or HTC Touch or Samsung ones or whatver but at this point of time, keypad of iPhone is the best around.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2931/diamondwv2.png&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HTC Touch Diamond keypad&lt;/a&gt;

I am gonna post the detailed review of Indian iPhone once I get hold of it :D (Yea, it&#039;s gonna have some bashing on the basic features too haha)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashok &#8211; GPRS? I browse all the time using GPRS on my SE W810i and it works fine.. it does not have Edge so it&#8217;s bit slow but in iPhone it should work fine.</p>
<p>About photozoom and all &#8211; No man, I still love it.. like you said, it&#8217;s there in iPod touch and I use it very frequently for browing and all.</p>
<p>Safari &#8211; Yes, if you have like 5-6 tabs open with heavy pages (may be say 200 &#8211; 300 KB+ each) then it is possible but I personally have not tried it so won&#8217;t be able to comment about it.</p>
<p>About apps and all &#8211; Well, every phone has their own limitations, they have must have added this restriction keeping security in mind and I am fine with that, app store has great stuff anyways. About other minor things, Yes, they are lacking as mentioned in the list of points but again, I am ok with it. For Indian users these things are important and requires. Let&#8217;s see how iPhone works for Indian market.</p>
<p>About not being able to type without looking at the screen &#8211; Man this problem is going to remain in ALL touch screen phones. Be it iPhone, or HTC Touch or Samsung ones or whatver but at this point of time, keypad of iPhone is the best around.</p>
<p><a href="http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2931/diamondwv2.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">HTC Touch Diamond keypad</a></p>
<p>I am gonna post the detailed review of Indian iPhone once I get hold of it <img src='http://www.whoisdeep.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  (Yea, it&#8217;s gonna have some bashing on the basic features too haha)</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Browsing is agree.. But deep you can do that with your iPod touch too, which costs how much 1/3rd? Its not like we have 3G here, browse on the move in India is not possible.. You can only browse from home and for that the iPod is good enough.

Rest of the things like photo zooming with fingers is stuff that you would be excited for about a week or 2 at max.. As i said more of a Toy than a actual reliable device.

Regarding Safari one or two pages is fine. But once it goes beyond that it starts to play up. Especially if your typing something on a form. I was posting something on a forum few days back and it kept crashing. But yeah the browsing experience is great no doubt.

And Apple although their products are great.. pwoer hungry control freaks.. why the F cant i install app without their appstore? Why cant i install 3rd party applications without jail breaking it? Why cant i send even ringtones / recorded audio clips via bluetooth? why do i have to transfer music / photos only through itunes? Beyond me :) When ur paying such a premium price, cant you at the least expect control over your device?

If i had 37k.. I would rather get a Nokia N95 8GB for 23k, and get a iPod touch 8 GB for 14k :) You get the best of both worlds

Seriously Deep, you could have got a Mac Mini at that price or a Macbook with a lil more. LOL

PS - Tried using the ipod touch a few times while watching movies to take down a few points but it just sucks so bad. I cant type without looking at the screen, with T9 i am much more comfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Browsing is agree.. But deep you can do that with your iPod touch too, which costs how much 1/3rd? Its not like we have 3G here, browse on the move in India is not possible.. You can only browse from home and for that the iPod is good enough.</p>
<p>Rest of the things like photo zooming with fingers is stuff that you would be excited for about a week or 2 at max.. As i said more of a Toy than a actual reliable device.</p>
<p>Regarding Safari one or two pages is fine. But once it goes beyond that it starts to play up. Especially if your typing something on a form. I was posting something on a forum few days back and it kept crashing. But yeah the browsing experience is great no doubt.</p>
<p>And Apple although their products are great.. pwoer hungry control freaks.. why the F cant i install app without their appstore? Why cant i install 3rd party applications without jail breaking it? Why cant i send even ringtones / recorded audio clips via bluetooth? why do i have to transfer music / photos only through itunes? Beyond me <img src='http://www.whoisdeep.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  When ur paying such a premium price, cant you at the least expect control over your device?</p>
<p>If i had 37k.. I would rather get a Nokia N95 8GB for 23k, and get a iPod touch 8 GB for 14k <img src='http://www.whoisdeep.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  You get the best of both worlds</p>
<p>Seriously Deep, you could have got a Mac Mini at that price or a Macbook with a lil more. LOL</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Tried using the ipod touch a few times while watching movies to take down a few points but it just sucks so bad. I cant type without looking at the screen, with T9 i am much more comfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashok - I just pre-ordered my iPhone.. paid 10K to the vodafone guys haha..

Actually, as you know, I too use iPod Touch with latest firmware. Till now, not even a single time safari crashed.. but yes.. ipod restarted automatically around 4-5 times but I guess that&#039;s fine keeping the size, processor and other things in mind. I am pretty much sure that in terms of browing, other phones cannot beat iPhone by any means.. just look at the technology man.. you can zoom the text with your fingers.. tilt the browser window by just changing the position of your ipod.. who would give that and that too with so perfection?

E71 looks sexy? It might be but from what I am seeing, more than half of the space is taken by the keypad.. 

About messaging thing.. this problem is going to remain with all the touch pad phones.. try even typing message with HTC Touch.. you will understand what I am talking about.. I have used HTC Touch and turst me.. it sucks big time.. 

30K - Yes, it is costly.. more than 3 times the cost.. it does not have SMS fowarding, it does not have MMS but it has the stuff which no one even thought of.. their App Store.. their usablity.. till now I have not seen any browser who could beat that..

Actually, in the end, the things I mentioned above should let the users decide what they wanna do.. but again, cost wise.. It is overpriced.. 

cheers
Deep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashok &#8211; I just pre-ordered my iPhone.. paid 10K to the vodafone guys haha..</p>
<p>Actually, as you know, I too use iPod Touch with latest firmware. Till now, not even a single time safari crashed.. but yes.. ipod restarted automatically around 4-5 times but I guess that&#8217;s fine keeping the size, processor and other things in mind. I am pretty much sure that in terms of browing, other phones cannot beat iPhone by any means.. just look at the technology man.. you can zoom the text with your fingers.. tilt the browser window by just changing the position of your ipod.. who would give that and that too with so perfection?</p>
<p>E71 looks sexy? It might be but from what I am seeing, more than half of the space is taken by the keypad.. </p>
<p>About messaging thing.. this problem is going to remain with all the touch pad phones.. try even typing message with HTC Touch.. you will understand what I am talking about.. I have used HTC Touch and turst me.. it sucks big time.. </p>
<p>30K &#8211; Yes, it is costly.. more than 3 times the cost.. it does not have SMS fowarding, it does not have MMS but it has the stuff which no one even thought of.. their App Store.. their usablity.. till now I have not seen any browser who could beat that..</p>
<p>Actually, in the end, the things I mentioned above should let the users decide what they wanna do.. but again, cost wise.. It is overpriced.. </p>
<p>cheers<br />
Deep</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a fool would recommend the iPhone 3G for Indian users..

And Deep although your not recommending the phone.. you seem to be totally involved in the hype as well.. what with those advantages in bold?? Have you seen the Nokia E71? It looks damn sexy and can do most things well for a business user..

An indian user should just get the iPod touch and be happy with it (available for about 13 - 14k in the grey market for the 8GB)

You forgot to mention the very basic things.. The iPhone cannot do even what most 200$ phones can do pretty well like Video Recording, SMS forwarding etc. The battery is pathetic. even for 2G users.. For 3G its gonna suck more.. 

Less buggy? I dont think! I have been using the ipod touch safari browser.. Keeps crashing all the time.. am on 2.0

Lastly imagine your travelling on a rick on those good old indian roads.. How do you message?? 

30k+ for a phone thats more of a toy than a reliable device is simply stupid. 

Well thats just my opinion :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a fool would recommend the iPhone 3G for Indian users..</p>
<p>And Deep although your not recommending the phone.. you seem to be totally involved in the hype as well.. what with those advantages in bold?? Have you seen the Nokia E71? It looks damn sexy and can do most things well for a business user..</p>
<p>An indian user should just get the iPod touch and be happy with it (available for about 13 &#8211; 14k in the grey market for the 8GB)</p>
<p>You forgot to mention the very basic things.. The iPhone cannot do even what most 200$ phones can do pretty well like Video Recording, SMS forwarding etc. The battery is pathetic. even for 2G users.. For 3G its gonna suck more.. </p>
<p>Less buggy? I dont think! I have been using the ipod touch safari browser.. Keeps crashing all the time.. am on 2.0</p>
<p>Lastly imagine your travelling on a rick on those good old indian roads.. How do you message?? </p>
<p>30k+ for a phone thats more of a toy than a reliable device is simply stupid. </p>
<p>Well thats just my opinion <img src='http://www.whoisdeep.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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