I had mentioned this in many of my earlier posts and mentioning the same again this time too.. I am just fedup the way things are turning up. Political parties are screwing the common man from left and right.. the ruling government and police are doing nothing.. all we can hear is.. some head guy saying “No one can take law in their hand, we will take strict action against them” But nothing happens, these parties are already taking law in their hand but the police is like mute spectator.
A common man is suffering in this…. there is no security from these political goons.. what is tomorrow one of these guys think of implementing a funny rule and forcing people? What will happen? NOTHING..
But who is responsible for this? Apart from the police and ruling party.. Media played a bigger role in this.. they love to create issues from small things.
Day before yesterday, I was watching some Hindi news channel, it was showing Drona’s music release where Jaya Bachchan jokingly said (Video) that she will speak in Hindi as she is from UP.. Now, these channels were flashing the same thing 100 times and making it a big issue.. they showed things like “Ab kya hoga Raj Thackeray ka jawaab” (What will be reaction of MNS chief Raj Thackeray)
And the very next day, MNS chief puts a large hoarding on Bandra linking road showing ticket to Allahbad printed on it.. it said.. “The Marathi are never going to forgive you, and Shivaji Maharaja’s Maharashta is not going to forgive you either” (Read more about it here)
And, then he decides to call a press conference and warn people about Jaya Bachchan’s statement. He uses harsh words like “The Guddi actress (She had acted in that movie) has become old but still she hasn’t matured enough” (It was very harsh in Marathi.)
And the guy, without any fear “announces” BAN on Bachchan family movies.. also warns theatre owners about it… “Let us see who shows these films..” and he even makes fun of the gag order police issued against holding press conferences and public meetings.. “It seems that the government has extra stationary — they keep on issuing me notices. Let them issue notices, I will keep on expressing my views whenever I feel like” (Read More)
Now, these guys demand public apology for what she said.. I am 100% sure that a common man is not even bothered about it.. they are smart enough to differentiate between joke and serious statements..
So, Jaya Bachchan finally apologizes for no reason.. haha but now MNS says.. this kind of apology is not enough…. (This was being aired on news channels)
Okay, so this was about MNS..
Now, why should Maharashtra’s own party Shiv Sena stay behind.. they aimed at Shah Rukh Khan today..
Here is what sena Chief Bal Thackeray said.. “Shah Rukh says he is a Dilliwala. If you are from Delhi, then why have you come to Maharashtra”
“In southern states, the anti-Hindi campaign has been on for the last sixty years. There is a ban on Hindi films and Hindi news in Tamil Nadu. In Assam, those speaking in Hindi are killed,” it said. “Why don’t the people who boast here that they are from UP or Bihar go to these areas and unfurl the Hindi banner” (Read More)
I am not sure what he is trying to say here.. does he mean to say that, if others are doing stupidity, we should also do it?.. just for the sake of religion?
I don’t understand why these guys are fighting so much over Maharashtra or Maharashtrian language? Are they themselves Marathi? NO..
Their children are studying in ENGLISH medium school Bombay Scottish, their grand son is making HINDI music album.. they have their sites in ENGLISH (or partially in English), so on what basis they are saying that they are Maharashtrians?
They want people to speak in Marathi, they want Bombay names to be changed to Mumbai but they do not want to admin their children in Marathi school, they do not want their Children to cut a Marathi album..
Why they understand that Religion should be kept at home.. I am Gujarati, you might belong to some other cast but when we are on the street, we are INDIANS not Maharashtrian or Gujarati or any other cast..
Doing cheap things like this is not going to lead us anywhere, it will divide Maharashtra..
Politics has reached at such a bad level that these politicians do not care about anything.. all they want is vote bank.. they don’t care how much it harms the common man or the country…
Shiv Sena Website – (Mostly in Marathi but partially in English too)
MNS Vidyarthi Sena Website – (Totally in English.. earlier this site was used as MNS’s main website)
Note: Please comment on the topic. No comments on any person or cast will be tolerated. No personal wars STRICTLY. If you do not agree with anything, put forward your views in DECENT manner.. no point in posting comments in abusive or indecent language.
Yeah .. Our own politicians ..
First they will divide on the religion basis – (Hindu + Muslim)
Then they will divide us on the caste basis (Upper caste – Schedule caste – Scheedule tribe)
Then they will divide us on the region basis (Maharastrian, gujarati, assami etc)
Then they will divide us on intra-caste basis(Vaishnav, brahmin, vanik, chamar)
So it’s we who will hv to stay united and hv to show harmony so that these politicians can stop their acts ..
I have lived in Mumbai for 24 years, that was long enough to see the Rajiv Gandhi being killed, the 92 bomb blasts and the 93 riots with my own eyes when I was just 11 years old, and have grown up through those devastating years, seeing my own friends dad’s and uncles houses and shops being busted.
I always had that memory in the back of my mind, first it was Hindus vs Muslims abhi next me or my religion?
The problem I thought ended there never ended, it is continued with so many other problems, from being a anti-national statement it is now a anti-state and anti-language drama.
Like they say angrez gaye par apna namo nisaan chod gaye, we have the fact of factionalism and regionalism so deep in our roots that we as a citizen overlook them and move ahead in life, we always tend to go backwards like we are going to win a backstroke gold medal, it is evident in everything our nation has done or has been doing. For example the recent N-Deal drama, the scandals and all, what would remain in users mind a successful N-deal, do they even care about it? Or the sting run by channel, that for some change had a heart.
Well I ran off topic, but I could write 100000 more words on this, but what’s the use.
The problem is Jaya Bachchan, Amitabh Bachchan and Raj Thackeray has a huge ego problem, those fuckers are taking on a space so diluted in Mumbai, and yes they have to fight for their rights with words that will incite each two languages against each other, and yes if a bottle is thrown at your house you will get in the news tomorrow, why because you spoke something big and you are a celebrity.
We can only listen, learn and enjoy, having lived here for 24 years is just a passing privlege both these people gave me.
public must get together and kill these ppl like idiot raj thakre ….
Can you guys do anything to free our society from the dirty paws of such Distinction on the basis of caste, language or boundaries or of Politicians or Media? If not, whats the use of writing such big articles in your personal web-diaries?
That is why we are called common man.Common man like us are satisfied with our status-quo in running our own enterprise or serving a big corporate giant or leaving the country for a high profile job. Just as we are doing business to earn profit, So are politicians and Media. They too are not here for social service.Its their business to play folly with the common man.
If we have that much fire, why don’t we come out our caves to serve country. We all,like politicians or media, are selfish too. We all are made up of same mud. Imagine yourself as a politician: you may well be fervidly dedicated to the society, but can you assure that you wont play red-tapism in filling your selfish motives.Of course,some might argue that they are not made for politics.Arey mere bhai, if not made for politics, who asked you to give your opinion on politics.
“Ghar me baithke gyan dena asaan hota hai”
Prove your mettle in a field first before commenting or preaching people about that field.
All common people are like GAU (COW) or rather like GADHE (Donkey) – Jisko jahaan chalne bola, chal diye – Why are we so sensitive that such stupid politicians or their statements affects us so badly?After all, we have given that such powers.
Interesting point there Rahul but I beg to differ. If someone is not into politics then it does not mean that he or she does not have right to reflect their opinions. Infact it is right of a common man to give feedback on the things which are going on.
It is like, you can watch movies but you cannot review it.. coz you have not made it.. haha
Now, a common man getting into politics.. to be frank this is next to impossible coz the system is not transparent.. and even if the person manages to become a politician he is not going to win because there is no strong backing..
Now the only possiblity I see is, a man standing and more than half of the people supporting him.. but I don’t think so that day will come so soon..
So, personally, there is nothing wrong in a common man speaking out his / her mind out in public.. be it a blog, a column in newspaper or whatever.. the reasons you mentioned does not justify the things…
IMO, Raj Thackeray should put behind bars immediately for provoking communal Violence.
What jaya said was a harmless joke.
Raj Thackeray’s reaction to it, is a politically motivated statement.Issued for his selfish self interest.
we all know he does give a damn to Maharashtra or India as a whole, he just cares is about himself.
Most of us understand this political gimmicks but the common Man sees whatever is shown to him/her in media.
That the reason why statements issues by such leaders work. they all know India is full of emotional fools.
As, long as they common man would keep buy this crap, organizations like Bajrang dal,MNS,Shiv sena would prevail and as a result people would suffer. their right to freedom would be curbed.
I pray God gives some wisdom to all Indians to decide whats wrong and whats right.
Rohit, not Rahul.. LoL
I have been witnessing this blame game since ages – System is not transparent, No Support, etc
Of course, its common mans right to give his/her feedback.
But I beg to differ by saying that its the common man who supported or voted for these politicians and given them these powers.
You cant see yourself standing into politics coz you have no support. But, why no support, because again the common man is supporting those stupid politician. The only option left is that you can again stand in that crowd and support these politicians.And hence, again become a common man.
I am not pointing out to you , but trying to make the common man reading your blog realize that somewhere the common man or the mob is responsible.
A movies success or failure depends on the people who see it…not on the people who made that movie
Oh.. sorry.. Rohit.. now it is correct
Yea, a common man’s vote is counted but now it goes into same circle.. I have seen party workers paying good amount of money to poor poeple so that they vote for them.. police is seeing these things but again nothing is happening.. because they are also part of this whole thing..
The corrpution is from the low level to top most level.. but there is no solution.. I can see only revolution the way..but HOW? that’s the biggest and main question..
Ya..no Solution.
So nothing can happen.
So, better accept what exists currently.
That’s what we are doing and waiting for something which can actually change the system.. people are ready to try but where is the way..
Only one thing caught my attention in all this writing.
“There is a ban on Hindi films and Hindi news in Tamil Nadu.”
LOL so that means all the hindi movies I have been watching here in Chennai are not hindi.
Anyways we cant do anything firm on such topics because people like these are there to add fuel to the fire or even spark, that happens anywhere. Its sad to see that even younger politicians have no sense in such matters.
Hi
“India is not shining anymore.. there is no freedom.. there is no freedom..” your text on Big B’ blog…
what do u mean by freedom…?
if some1 is doing sex on road, as a freedom… will u accept…? and if not…then why…
some1 slapped you and then said sorry if heart by my slap..will accept this apology…
Ok…i am not fully agree with Raj & Sena…
but when i think, if both are not their then what will happen in Maharashtra…who will react against bhihari style gunda log…
so dont try to teach freedom to marathi people…
count the freedom fighters in india.. more than 50% well known freedom fighters are from Maharasthra and they scarified their life for freedom.
I will request you to go to UP, Bihar like states and create awareness in people about freedom. Many people in this state don’t know what is Vote and how to use it. (i think u and others will agree with sentence)
Jay Maharashra
Vishwas
i can’t understand this regionalism,we call the simi anti-national,wat about this mns they are against our constitution that any indian can go any where in the world.they think shiva jee belongs to only maharashta,oh cmon if this thing starts to happen than in bihar people say that the greatest king ever had india the great Ashoka belongs to bihar than don’t use ashoka chakra on national flag,the god budhha belongs to bihar so don’t practice budhissm out side bihar,and who is this guy saying that 50% of freedom fighter belongs to maharashtra,wat abt mahatma,nehru,bagat singh,chandasekhar,bose,we don’t think that bal gangadhar tilak belngs to any particular region he belongs to every indian.
so jai hind,no jai bihar,jai up,jai maharashtra,
only and only jai hind
enough we r tierd of Hindi MEDIA and now hindi… why dont u let maharshtrians enjoy ganesh festival .. why ur hindi news channels had to flash that 1 sentense from jaya bacchan 1000 times.. if it was not serious????????????????? these news channels hurt maharashtra 1000 times.. these news channels dividing country adding fuel countinously .. saying “MARATHI KE TARAF DARO KE MUH PER JAYA KA TAMACHA” we were watching on tv she was joking but these ppl had to pick on sentense and played 2-3 hrs on tv..untill they got next news which was raaj reply why these ppl r tourturing maharashtra this much. bacchans, maharashtra, thakrey all outsiders living in mumbai r suffering bcoz of media STOP IT MEDIA.
raaj thakrey or marathi manus never said no to hindi
HINDI MEDIA SHOULD SAY SORRY TO MAHARASHTRA AND COUNTRY for adding fuel to fire for just TRP ….
HINDI NEWS CHANNELS SHOWS NEWS LIKE MOVIE.. With sound effect.. everything is drama for them. now we r tierd.. and im goin to court against HINDI NEWS CHANNELS.. AAJ TAK, INDIA TV NEWS, coz these r irresponsible NEWS Channels somebody should take against them..coz media is not God common man have brain now.
Jai hind Jai Maharashtra.
hi.
i agree with u deep..and mr Vishwas i m not agree with u..u say if sena is not there who will tackel with bihari likee..my frnd..did u know mumbai is a old city and it exists way before shiv sena or MNS….did u ever heared these cheap issues before SS or MNS..the answer is NO….this is all political..i think people who act on such thoughts of political parties ..they don`t have mind..and work….and Mr.Vishwas ..have u ever been to Delhi….you will be surprised to see Biharis and UP people ..overthere..but have u ever heared any new from there ..that any local party wants send them back….
These MNS & SS…..they are making fool…they never say anything about marathi farmer who is dyeing..Raj thakrey never speak about unemployment.y coz…he is a good politician ..he knows ..u people want cheap politics..like throwing stones..at other peoles home..beating people who works here……just think vishwas..many maharastrian who are engineers..doctors..works outside..if they ever beaten up by a local party at any part of india ..then will this SS or MNS..will go there to save them..answer is agian ..NO..coz u knw the last outcome..that time alose ..a marathi boy was killed and the killer are not bihari ur own ..MNS (marathi manoos ke thekedaar)..if they are planning to make new maharastra like this ….then god save mumbai..coz they are not thinking about maharasytra they think about ..mumbai..which is converting in to next HEll…so long live maharastra…but with gracefull partys….
Deep,
Your blog comment is just a reaction against the MNS chief who reacted something against the Jaya Bachchan and her family.
Just tell me, if anyone from outside of your house says anything against your family and relatives, you definitely will get annoyed and same thing happened here.
I do agree that we are Indians and should remain united and should live like an Indian, but it does not mean that you can speak anything against anyone and particularly on a big stage and that also in any funny manner that will hurt the sentiment of peoples that belongs to some community, and the community which has a strong history.
The community is the mirror of common peoples. If anyone speaks against it, there will be reaction, and the reaction is the same that you are seeing around.
I have also looked at the clip what Jayagi had said all about, and it really looks ridiculous and I really got upset in the manner she said. The questions here again arises why she said?
A personality like Jaya Bachchan should not be so careless in using words against anyone. There were nothing to say anything against anyone and this is the mistake that she had done.
I really feel that she should apologize for the unnoticed things that had happened from her and should be careful not to repeat it again in future.
I think she insulted marthi people in national television and she must apolozise in national television only,
there is no need to take the language matter in function of music launch, she staying in maharashtra and talking against maharashtra people and apologies, that means she know that it will hurt people of maharashtra. SHE MUST APOLOGIES BEFORE NATIONAL TELEVISION.
mahesh sharma.
Vishwas – Freedom according to me is something for which I am not restricted to BUT at the same time, it should not hurt sentiments of other people..
Now, sex on the road for example.. it is something not appropriate for the common people so obviously it can be something like “advantage” of freedom and same applies for the slap.
But, now if we relate this to incident mentioned above. I would like to clarify that, first of all, it was not any statement… it was merely a comment which was said jokingly..
But if it was a serious statement.. then, the question of apology comes in the picture.. but personally thinking, it is point of view of the people…
For me, it won’t make any difference if you speak in Marathi or Hindi.. coz both are Indian language.. and Hindi is our Rashtrabhasha.. so there is nothing wrong in speaking in Hindi.. we cannot divide India based on the langauge we speak and for a common man it should not make any difference.
Now, people getting hurt from her statement.. just check the video link I have provided in the post.. do you think it was something serious? And HOW it will hurt people?
Now about Raj Thackrey.. what the guys saying is PERFECTLY RIGHT.. but the way he is doing is TOTALLY WRONG.. Infact I agree with his thinking about priorities to non-maharashtrians but he should find a way LEGALLY to do it..
If politicians are corrupt, no transparent system is there.. MAKE PEOPLE AWARE ABOUT IT… there is not point in forcing people right and left…
About more than 50% of the freedom fighters from Maharashtra.. may be but you should also know that 100% of them are from INDIA and I am Indian first.. and then Maharashtrian.. so we should think about the country not about the states..
I don’t care what people in UP, Bihar or Gujarat are doing.. but whatever happening in Maharashtra is NOT RIGHT..
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Anurag – I totally echo your views.. great example..
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Boon – You are right.. Media is showing many things which are not even required..
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Mangesh – Like mentioned to Vishwas.. it was said jokingly, it was not a serious statement at all.. but the Media guys and politicians made it serious.. You can check the video clip and you will get the idea about it.
She did not say anything bad about Maharashtra or Maharashtrians…she just said, she would use Hindi coz she is from UP, Maharashtraisn please forgive her.. not she already said sorry for it right? and Comeon it wasnt seriously… it’s so easy to make out.. LOL
About why she said.. I don’t know about it.. there must be something in her mind which made her say that.. but it was surely not to harm anyone and it was a JOKE….
But I can ask the same question to you, why Raj Thackrey’s ppl had to take law in hand.. why they had to warn theatre owners, why they had to tear the banner and posters of Bachchan family apart? What was in their mind?
Couldn’t they reply in the same manner? Without taking the law in hand?
Also, why there was any need to use such harsh words like “akkal” and all.. why he had to say things like “police has extra stationary to send me the notices… I am not bothered about it”
So do you think it is right?
Check the video clip here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFv3dhIZutw
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Mahesh Sharma – It was Media and Political parties who did this.. a common man never gets affected by these stupid things but now because of these politicians, even common man is thinking about the things which are not at all important…
I agree to this Deep..
http://vmoments.blogspot.com/2008/09/yeh-hai-bombay-meri-jaan.html
Deep,
You said “In southern states, the anti-Hindi campaign has been on for the last sixty years. There is a ban on Hindi films and Hindi news in Tamil Nadu. In Assam, those speaking in Hindi are killed,” it said. “Why don’t the people who boast here that they are from UP or Bihar go to these areas and unfurl the Hindi banner”
May be you should get your facts clear http://www.rajbhasha.nic.in/dolacteng.htm Hindi is not the official language of India. So why force it on those who dont want to accept it.
Then you say “Their children are studying in ENGLISH medium school Bombay Scottish, their grand son is making HINDI music album.. they have their sites in ENGLISH (or partially in English), so on what basis they are saying that they are Maharashtrians?”
Well, their children already know the Marathi Language very well. So they are into English medium schools to master their knowledge about English unlike those sticking just to hindi and give a damn to other languages.
Then you mention that Jaya Bacchan jokingly said. Well, there was no sense of humor in what she said else she had no reason to stress on the words HUM UP KE LOG HAI ISILIYE HUM HINDI ME BOLENGE & MAHARASHTRIANS SHoULD FORGIVE THEM FOR SPEAKING IN HINDI. It was but obvious that it was a function for a hindi film and she was to speak in hindi. No one present there had asked her to speak in Marathi or any other language. If Raj Thackarey’s reaction is not justified, then what Jaya Bacchan did was equally or rather more irresponsible. Now as to why she said this — one reason may be she wanted free publicity for the film and this was the easiest way to gain it by instigating Raj. As it is the garbage new channels desperately need something to fill in their slots and then blow it up to such an extent that the issue becomes violent.
Now coming down to basics. I’m a common man and I’m very much affected by the number of people pouring in from other states especially from UP & bihar. Till a few years ago I was comfortable travelling in a second class, but now because of these migrants I’m forced to travel in a first class. Why am I forced to shell out the extra money with no fault of mine? To add to the woes more than 3/4th of those who migrate dont even pay taxes to Maharashtra government. So why should I suffer?
Why doesnt anyone ask the leaders laloo or mulayam as to why they miserably failed in developing their states? One reason could be the media or those into print or blogging lack the guts in their butts to question these leaders on their failure because if laloo can take the credit of getting the Railways into profit, then why was he so inefficient in developing Bihar? So the truth is he is taking the credit for the work done by someone else.
A couple of weeks ago the railway recruitment was going on in Andra Pradesh. And the same thing what happens in Mumbai happened there. Hundreds of biharis came in for the recruitment of a score of seats and they were beaten up by the local people there. Why didnt anybody protest against that? Why is it that only Mumbai or Maharashtra is targetted by the media? may be the people of maharashtra are more tolerent than the rest of the states. But yes, this tolerence level is now coming to an end.
And btw, dont be so biased in what you write because even the Bacchans are no saint.
Deep,
I totally disagree with your comments. A personality like Jaya Bachchan can’t make any statement that can look like a joke and that also on peoples by which now a days she is remaining in controversy.
She should be aware that she is in publish place and she should be more careful in using words that might not hurt anyone in anyway.
I know that there will be nothing in her mind against any marathi peoples but the thing that had happened from here unnoticely gives out wrong message to viewer.
You see that clip again and you will notice that she made some comments and after that they laugh in a manner that really gives out wrong impression about the thing that she needs to say. Her body language, her face and her words does not demonstrate anything that tell good about, but infact looks ugly and looks like she is making joke on marathi peoples.
I am good fan of Amitabh and also i like all other family members of Amitabh including jayaji but thing that happened really hurted me, when i see that clip, their movements and that laugh that she gave out.
About MNS, i don’t know how they should reacts again this issue, but definitely not by penalting stones on buses and destroying public places, i am against this and will be. But also thing is that if you remain quit, no one will take notice about it.
Sameer – I did not say “You said “In southern states, the.. ” it was in a news column and then 2nd sentense was statement by Raj Thackrey.. (links already provided in the post)
About English medium and Hindi album.. well, the point is, if these politicians are so proud of the language and care about Marathi people then why they are giving more importance to English and Hindi language? Son is in English medium.. coz he knows Marathi already.. so do you mean to say that there is no point in admitting their sons to Marathi school just because they know Marathi? I think there is English subject in Marathi school too.. so why there was any need to go to English school and have only one subject for Marathi? haha
And also why not make first album in Marathi rather than Hindi? Are they giving less importance to Marathi here?
I am raising these points just because they are raising the same and confusing common people.. It is just for the vote bank.. nothing else…
About why she said.. I don’t know.. about free publicity.. I dont think so, they need any.. no one is concerned about the movie but people are concerned about the things which are going on..
About a common man facing problems in the train and everywhere because of migrants..
Okay, let me explain you in 2 different situations.. in both the cases we are facing issues with the migrants..
1. A political leader suddenly realizes that many outside people are coming to our state and it is affecting common people. He goes on the streets and starts beating them..
Outside people are afraid.. the things are stopped for sometime.. but again it starts.. again the same process goes on and does not stop..
2. The same political leader, instead of beating up the people.. reaches to the root of the system…. poeple are coming from other states and they are getting taxi license.. they are getting shop keeper’s license.. but who is giving them?
OUR PEOPLE ARE GIVING THEM? So how do we stop it.. he tries to impose a rule where migrants are given last priority and own people are giving top.. no licenses are issued to them.. nothing.. they will be given late as there are other poeple from the same state waiting..
So? The problem is STOPPED.. no one will dare to mess up the things.. straight and simple..
Don’t you think that’s smarter way to fight for the rights?
Mangesh – Let’s assume that she made a serious statement to harm the pepole… she apoligized.. but still people do not think it’s right.. so let the matter go in the hands of law? Why any party worker need to give such statements.. don’t we have a legal system out there?
All I trying to say is, there is always a legal better way to handle the things rather than taking law in our own hands..
We should demand 28 states to be converted in 28 countries.My MH, my KA, my BH, etc.Why our politicians fought for freedom?Just for one nation “India” not even Hindustan or Pakistan.But alas the day is not far when because of these new generation politicians we will fight against states.Now we are fighting for religion.Ain’t we Indian first and ain’t our constitution gives us the right to speech, travel etc.
well…..for Raj Thackrey people wont speak today or say something to him but people of this city will show him their anger in ELECTION…..yeah…in Election raj will get his answer abt all this he is doin…like people sud speak in Marathi and tht big hangama for hordings & all tht…….just wait and watch…….by the way Election is not much away
who says marathi people are aginst hindi?
what we are against is the unwarranted efforts to dominate the state of maharashtra. outsiders can come live earn and enjoy… but plz don not try to dominate the locals… we hate it…. its too much to bear…. we cannot speak in our own language in our own state …thats the condition….
what you have written is all great… but it misses the finer print….the very roots of the protest lie in the blatant and shameless exploitation of maharashtra by the outsiders!
Well, Deep I completely agree with your points. We have law and government of Maharashtra headed by a ‘Maharashtrian’to handle the unwanted issues. No one is stopping Maharashtrian’s to speak in Marathi. In fact, I too speak in Marathi, despite being a Kutchi and speak much much fluent and good Marathi and feel proud about being born and brought up in Maharashtra, and am very very close and inclined towards Marathi and its rituals and culture, I never saw or considered my self as outsider as I am so mixed and deeply churned in all that i have seen about Marathi and Maharashtra. No one is exploiting Marathi language or Marathi People. Those who have this misunderstanding that all outsiders are disrespecting Marathi or Marathi culture are wrong! BTW who can be termed ‘Parprantiya’ (Outsiders)??? Are these Upities, or Bihari’s, from Bangladesh or Pakistan??? All those who have posted against your blog just have to open up their mind and broaden their vision and use a bit commonsense. Can’t these guys notice that this is sheer politics and there is no single benefit of marathi manoos or common man??? Marathi man and even other can promote and even enrich the lost marathi culture and pride by celebrating it, spreading awarness about it,( as i personally do!) and just by not beating, harssing or bullying others caste, who are integral part of HINDUSTAN. All can Visit my blog and post comment about this ‘Jai Hind!Jai Maharashtra!
http://rajeshrajgor.blogspot.com/2008/09/mann-se-kehta-hai-raj-gor-raj-esh.html
End of the day it is bad to model the bad of other states and take refuge. Tamilnadu being the worst state of Hindi hater. This one state looks very distant and sometimes behave like ‘neighbouring country’ like Srilanka. They are into Indian parliament for a simple reason to get the maximum benefit for the state.
Assam the issue is different it is more of reaction and fear of loosing land, business and jobs of Assamese to Biharis, UPs and Marwaris than mere hatred of Hindi as a language.
We know those two states are bad for the constitution of India its of bad taste to take examples of something bad and take refuge to that.
Tamilnadu has a reason to hate hindi as they are proud to be the creator of ‘Dravidian’ script language. But not other states and most of the sates have its own language origin from Sanskrit and Urdu. How the letters in Marathi looks like ? If you can read hindi u can read marathi, bengali even.
And for information Biharis do not speak hindi, they have different languages like bhojpuri, santali
Hindi as a language is a common barrier between other states. English is still not in reach for all poor people. What language you will speak to an auto driver or taxi driver or even the local hotel, when you go to any other state(except Tamilnadu and they know english…but you must start with ‘vanakam’)? Obviously Hindi isnt it ?
Each and every state has its own local or mother tongue and they are proud of nothing wrong in it. But the country’s pride precedes everything.
If we allow these petty sadist people like Thakerys, Mayavati, Karunanidhi, Mamata Banerjee to rule and make their terms then it only makes the dream of Pakistan to be true ie. India broken down in regions and states so they get Kashmir.
It is interesting to note few gentleman proudly but without sufficient knowledge of history says more than 50% of freedom strugglers are from Maharashtra. Problem is most people are having shallow knowledge and information and come out for views. It is advised to spend some time as http://www.wikipedia.com and search their knowhow.
Mumbai is Mumbai today is not because of local Marathis but mostly because of Parsis and Gujratis who invested and made it a financial capital.
Who invests in Bollywood today and how many local Marathis earn their living from it ? People from all over the country contributes for Bollywoood. So if someone understands the economy, he/she can understand that it is a win win situation.
It is not really because of Marathis that Bollywood is existing or rather any industry is existing in Maharastra it is because of the favourable conditions of the state.
It is time to come out of this shallow or little knowledge dangerous world. It is required to have a macro view than these stupid regionalism.
Today we have the worst president (or dummy)ever and replacing a living legend and great like Dr.Kalam. Her qualification ? She managed Gandhi family’s kitchen. Why and how she came to the post we all know. Why Thankerys voted for her we all know.
Another 5 years of Dr.Kalam could have changed the face of India to a lot extent. Are you aware that Switzerland celebrates ‘scientific day’ every year on the honour of Dr.Kalam, who happened to give a lecture there sometime ago ? And by the way which state he belonged? Kerela right? SO what we have given him when another established and richest nation can honour him ?
One gentleman expressed that he had to travel in ‘first class’ due to migrants so his ‘class’ is falling apart when he travels with these ‘untouchables’ so you still believe Gandhi is the father of nation ?
But Gandhi is a Gujrati and by the way who wrote the national anthem and what is its meaning ?
Which state has the distinction of all the noble prize winners for India ?
Love your contry. Be proud you live in such a country where u can say and do anything. Thank god that you do not live in Afganishthan, Saudi Arabia or China.
Be happy…..
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Saikat – Great stuff..
Hi Deep,
I agree with you and every body knows that because of IDIOTIC acts and provocative statements of Raj Thakarey, taxi drivers were beaten up who are from Bhihar, UP and other states. What was the outcome of it?. 40 percentage of the industries in entire Maharashtra locked out. It has effected business growth of the state. Industries have been shut down which are the sole bread earners for some families. What good Raj Thakarey has done or still doing? Sometimes, the acts of SS and MNS people reminds Saddam and his son Uday’s temperament. The funniest part or should i say shameless part, government has been numb and dumb. And only after intervention of High Court, Raj Thakarey mouth has been zipped for a while.
They (SS and MNS) are nothing but diluting the minds of Maharastians with hatred and regional feelings. What should we call them ? In 1993, Mumbai has been attacked by Terrorists who have tried their best efforts to destroy Mumbai. Who brought Mumbai back to normal, it is the common man..but not SS or MNS. We know that, there was no SS or MNS in 1993.
So, who are these, to tell how to live, how to love fellow mumbaikar. I am closing with my final comment saying that, ‘Marathi(rather, i would say, One’s) Self Respect doesn’t become high by attacking others. You can’t demand respect, you have to earn it’.
Saikat,
It clearly seems like you are anti-marathi and not anti-politician.
You have given one homepage of wikipedia, but seems like you have not studies inside wikipedia what marathi history is all about…just go through this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_Empire…This all demonstrate how powerful the marathi people is all about.
You are saying about Mumbai is not developed by Marathi people…then it seems like you have very less knowledge….The significant portion to develop Mumbai was done by marathi people. The bollywood was brought in by marathi person Dadasaheb Phalke.
The current president is marathi so it seems like you are against her so using such a dummy like words.
and your words really upset me a lot
“It is not really because of Marathis that Bollywood is existing or rather any industry is existing in Maharashtra it is because of the favourable conditions of the state.”
It clearly seems like you lack knowledge about Maharashtra. You are saying about favorable condition in Maharashtra. i want to know then who develop this favorable condition in Maharasthra? Definitely by Marathi peoples…and not by UPs, Keralis, Biharis or anyone else. otherwise why Maharashtra state is much forward then any other state in our country.
Do you homework first and then make any comments against anyone…particularly against Marathis
Hi
Saikat i agree with u r all comments…
we need peoples like T.Chandrashekar in polytics..
polyticians from ‘Bimaroo’ state & central govt must take stepts to develop these Bimaroo states…
then only others states will be safe from major shifting of population from Bimaroo to developed states…
its so unfortunate that we have come to a situtaion where in we have started divinding ourselves based on regions … for the greater harm of our great country , its been only 61 yrs since our independence and we have alreday started breaking it up .
The power of the well being of any country is not in the hands of any petty polititian but us the common man as the destinies of nation are written by them .
I dont care if i am a Marhati , a Punjabi , a Bengali ,a oriya , a UP ite or a Bihari , I am first an Indian and thats who the world looks at me .
I belong to a country that has taught the world non – violence / the numbers system / birth place to most of the languages spoken across the world Indo -aryan / the largest true democracy / the cradel of civilization / the oldest base to any religion or faith / a country which has deserts / beutiful sea shores / the highest mountains / to the thickest of forests and where food tastes , dilcets , dressing habits change every 100 kms… where else can be get this vastness …
I am a non Marahati living in Mumbai the commercial capital of India for the last year and a half … and i am sad to see whats happening . I have lived in other great cities of the country and have never seen this happening . I am a free citizen of a free nation and i have the right to decide where i want to live / learn / earn and spend . This is obviouly with the fact that i should respect my freedom without hurting / infringing and exploting any one around me …. thats the basis of freedom .
To the issue of being a maharati , everyone has pride to where he hails from / or his place of birth and there is nothing wrong in it / but useing it to infring on the freedom on an ordinary man is wrong .
I do not want to comment on what ppl here have written on contributions done for the country and state by different ppl from different regions …. dont we all jump up on our seats to see Sachin hitting a six / or love to here the nightangle of Indian music – Smt. Lata Mangeskar simlar to any maharati enjoying Kishor Kumar and eating Tandoori Chiken … dont we all take pride to say that they belong to India …..
I remember a very importnat episode which i like to share with you all …
During the KARGIL war body bags after body bags were arriving into Delhi … and i used to be in Delhi till a year and a half back .. and on way to work one of those days … i see a sea of human beigns walking towards the Nizamuddin gravyard with Lt. Hannifuddins body . I have never seen the emotions of solidaity and connectivity of this kind , every car on the road / bus … big or small / every man suited booted or on his cycle stopped and got out to pay their last respects …. did any one think where he was from / what his religion is …. he gave his today for our tommrow ….
lets all as examples set the right presedents for our future generations / for the generation before us has given us freedom dont we have a responsiblity to give something back to our nation rather than dividing it further …..
For a great Nation….
“Bh?rata bh?gya Vidh?t?
Pañj?ba Sindhu Gujar??a Mar??h?
Dr?vi?a Utkala Ba?ga
Vindhya Him?cala ?amun? Ga?g?
Ucchala jaladhi tara?ga”
Jai Hind …
Well, after reading this blog I’m kinda laughing about how you all are trying to prove each other wrong. Some folks here are trying to justify Mr Raaj (The Marathi Saint). What I see is that politics and these so called language and culture saviours are fu*king all common human beings like us in the ass.
Mr Raaj’s son opted for German language in school because he could not score in his local language and when asked why he is not taking marathi when he his father is fighting for the culture and so called Marathi Manus? He said he could not score in that subject and the language is hard.
Mr Raaj you claim to show some care and respect for you so called fellow Marathi Manus? Why didn’t you donate your acres of land in Kohinoor Hills for development of such poor people.
Where was you so called political power when the train blasts and mumbai blast happend? What did you do? Don’t tell me that only outsiders died in the blast and locals maharastrians weren’t there?
Instead of focusing on security, terrorism and poverty issues you are freaking talking about language and culture. Maybe you switch off the tv and the news when people across the border blow up our people in mumbai and other areas.
End of the day I say common man deserves to be fu*cked becasue it ultimately us who follows this self-centered morons. We go attend their rallies and sympathize with them and they take advantage. Tomorrow that b*stard will say stop sending you children to english medium schools. I wanna really see my fellow maharastrians follow his advice.
We follow them and after taking the votes through all means necessary they f*ck us with this 14 inch d*cks and then we complain about a pain in the ass…
And then there are people saying in 10-15 years India will be greater power and will be ahead of all countries…I wouldn’t call this a bullshit but I would call it the thackrays shits and politicians shit…
Jai Maharastra
P.s suffer poverty, be blown to shreds, corruption, murder and after suffering all this give importance to what language the sign boards are in and what language one speaks and which state he belongs to….now my friends this is modern India….
To reply Rajesh:
Hi Rajesh,
It looks probably you have not understood or read my blog post here.
OK, I have sometime to clarify your ‘understandings’ or short of it.
Firstly, your quote of terming me as ‘anti marathi’ is painful as it only reflects the mind of so many ‘frogs in well’ type people like you. I have friends of all religion and languages however my closest friends are Marathis. At present I stay outside India in Sweden. My boss here is also a Marathi and you will never know how closely knit we are.
I was lucky enough to travel and live in all the major cities of India. I earlier worked for a company who is ‘the backbone of India’s air defense’ and had people all over the country working for it.
Nevertheless, the above justifcation was not called for but it did pained me when you termed me as anti marathi.
I am aganist regionalism of any sort, thats my word and I have seen several posts supporting the centiments that ‘outsiders’ this thought is dangerous like cancer and when mixed with politics it becomes deadly.
About Maratha history in wikipedia. You can search for other states and you can find them too, especially like Bengal, Punjab, UP (I am sure you are aware of Rani of Jhansi (Laxmibai)who is no lesser than any old heros), Leave apart the more recent greats like Mahatma Gandhi, Pandit Nehru. Come out of the well please, look broad, definitely you can improve.
Today Punjab has the highest contributor in terms of jawans to Indian army or defense as a whole. DO you agree ? Kerela and Tamilnadu provides the best brain for the defense related research. So do not just sit and complain with petty sadist non issues.
Yes, I stick to the point of bollywood contribution. Today bollywood will not be bollywood if people of the hindi belt especially goes to the film hall or buys the music CDs and DVDs.
The glamour of heros came from mostly ‘mona’ punjabis and ‘khandani muslims’ settled there. The heroines, literates,directors and singers contributed to Bollywood are mostly from Bengal. THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTOR TO BOLLYWOOD ALL TIME IS AMITABH BACHAN (from UP).
I am sure no one will have any doubts in that. It might sound odd to you again but it is a fact that today the world knows about Bollywood is because of these people and not really becasue of Dadasaheb Phalke. I have a friend here who is half Greek and half Swedish…he is mad about Shahrukh Khan and have more knowledge of Bollywood than many. You will not believe his mobile is having ring tone of the song from kal ho na ho.
SO my friend please come out of your wrong centiments and look on macro level.
Financing of Bollywood is done by most people from all over India and also Mumbai breed ‘dons’ right ? You should have guts to call them as ‘outsiders’ and anti nationals and not to the poor people coming there for a living, mostly in contruction sites.
About the present president she is no less than dummy I stick to it. She comes in place of a personality who can be termed as a living legend. I had that lifetime opportunity to see him face to face for couple of occasions and hear his vision.
I told about the dirty politics and regioanlism which went behind not to have Dr.Kalam for another term for the good of the nation. Thankerys voted for her only because she is a Marathi. Do you say this is correct ?If an established foreign nation can recognize him we cannot.
I am sure you definitely can improve your mindset and make our great nation a force to acknowledge while making Maharastra proud for ‘son of soil’ like you.
Take care and stay way do not stress much.
@Deep,
I completely agree with your blog post, it has led to a genesis of a blog post in my head, but that has to wait till I get my new keyboard as my laptop keyboard sucks and is on its final journey. Some of the letters on my keyboard cannot be typed but they need to be pasted so it is irritating to post. But there are a few things I wanted to say:
Raj Thackeray is a politician who walked away from his own family so that he will have a chance to become the President of a party that will catapult him to the position of the CM. I do not know how many here remember about the first elections after Raj broke away from the SS, his promises about bringing change in Maharashtra, I liked it and I voted for him and I have regretted it ever since, cause they done nothing but destroyed Maharashtra.
Raj Thackeray stop worrying about the Bacchans and worry about the Marathi Manoos in Vidarbha and other regions where they are committing suicide. Show that you are capable of solving Maharashtra’s problem and then talk about Marathi pride and culture.
@Saikat,
Some of your reasoning fall flat because of your ignorance and lack of knowledge:
1. Dr. Abdul Kalam is from Tamil Nadu and was born there. Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Kalam and do not spread stupidity it is contagious, then there is no difference between you and Bal Thackeray.
2. Have you ever been to Tamil Nadu, there is no bullshit like you should say vanakkam before you get into an auto or stuff like that.
3. There is no ban on Hindi in Tamil Nadu. I have spoken Hindi in Tamil Nadu despite being a Tamilian and was not discriminated against. Again, this ban on Hindi movie is wrong, for Kamal Haasan’s Magnum Opus – Dasavatharam, Amitabh Bacchan was the special guest for the music release and Mallika Sherawat is playing a role in the movie. These are lies purported by politicians like the Thackerays who will raise their voices on such petty issues and forget that the Marathi Manoos in Vidarbha is committing suicide.
Reply to Saikat,
If is so then why bollywood is not in punjab, UP or in any other state and Why it is in Maharashtra?
And now i really want to laugh at your knowledge. You have pointed out the name of Rani Laxmibai, and just for your knowledge go through this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rani_Lakshmibai
This link will tell you all about her history and you definitely look at this.
And again want to say, your knowledge is quite less in terms of general knowledge. It seems like your knowledge is limited to your work, so don’t get involved in any discussion outside your work if you can’t make your point clear.
And regarding the current president, she is not only because of Marathi people, if it was so, then whole Indian was under Marathi people.
I don’t want to get in guilt regarding my country’s unity due to your comment. I am proud Indian and also a proud Maharashtrian.
If anyone speak again my country, against my town, i will react.
Be happy and be a proud Indian
Jai Hind
Jai Maharashtra
Dear Rajesh ,
pls hold your temper … this is not a place to show ur angish … the only hindu King who later turned to Buddhism who ruled the contry from one end to another end including the present day Sumantar / Afgan / Burma and many others was the great Ashoka and his capital was Pataliputra present day Bihar.
I am sure if u have pride for your ppl so do others pls respect them then they will respect u .. your an indian and every community and langauge has done equally for the country not that maharasthara has done more or Tamil Nadu less .
The city of Mumbai belongs to all indians who abide by the law / love their freedom without hurting anyone .
Remember all great cities are made by migrants … you name them and u will find the migrat influnce …
and in todays world eveyone is a migrant … today ur in here tommrow u would be some where else …
Take the migrants out the city will have nothing … after all everyone is a migrant where ever he lives ….
Jai Hind
Think Global Act Local ….
India would never ever progress… thats for sure…
To add some responses to the above of Rajesh and Venkatesh :
Please note that my points are only based on these great people who did not only consized or felt happy with their birth place or origin…but they added value to the nation as a whole.
I specifically mentioned Laxmibai as great than many as she was not really pinned own as ‘Marathi’ defending Maharastra only and for Marathi cause. It is important for what she fought and where.
About Dr.Kalam yes, he was born in TN and educated in MIT, but if you do not know, later of his life he spent in Vikram Sarabhai Space Center at Trvandrum which is in Kerela, developping SLV3 missile for which he was the project director and his mentor was the legendary Vikram Sarabhai who was originated from Ahmedabad Gujrat but settled and died at Trivandrum.
My message and views here is for national integrity and not like ‘frogs in well type’ taking pride in own state only and regionalism and feel proud which great was born where.
Oh yes, I have been to and stayed in Chennai for sometime. I do not want to get into another brand of ‘anti Tamil’ type as there are some leaders who takes prestige in dividing India as ‘north india’ and ‘south india’. Tell me which religion can tolerate people like Karunanidhi who can hurt centiments of lakhs of people and say wrong about ‘Ram’ and terming as ‘north Indian god’ and what not.
There are many old religious stories and events like Ramayana in all religions and everything cannot be asked by logic.
Hindu religion is most tolerant that there was no ‘fatwa’ against his head like Salman Rushdie or Taslima Nasreen.
I do not want to open another front like religion debate here. But what he did and doing is not right. It is rare in TN people voluntarily speaks Hindi or atleast tries to.
Even leaders like Chidambaram termed BJP as ‘north Indian party’ in one of his pre election campaign during last election. Do you approve this ?
Venkatesh you can speak Hindi probably the only reason you might have spent time outside TN and I am sure it will be a great exception that you have learned Hindi staying only in TN. Touch your heart and say, no need to blog and justify.
DO you feel good when Kannadigas beat Tamils staying there becasue of Cauvery issue ? Why this language barrier ? Why the innocent Tamils staying there was beaten up when Dr.Rajkumar was abducted by Veerappan ? Why Assamese are killing innocent Biharis and Marwaris ?
You approve all these ?
It is important that common people like us understands this damage and have better sense prevail and not to indulge in his language or petty region politics.
What we can do is not to keep our mind rotted like those enemies of the nation and ensure we do not support them.
reply to stargatedun,
I am not against any migrants and nor will be. But it does not means that migrants should dominant the local peoples and should criticize them in any way.
Go through my post, and you will see i have not even made any comments against any other language peoples or any other state peoples, and i will never do that, because i am aware about the fact and i proud to be Indian.
The place where i am working are having maximum non-maharasthrian. To my right is a person from UP and to my left is from AP, and i am having very good relationship with them
I am only defending against the peoples who are commenting against Marathi.
What you say is right “take respect and give respect” and that what i am saying respect our mother tongue, respect our peoples, respect our town, respect our state and we will respect you
What Jayaji said looks clearly like she wants to make fun of marathi people. Tell me was it necessary for her to make any such comments and also in such a funny manner? Definitely No!
So go and blame her because she is the culprit who have started all these drama around.
Deal All,
first of all i am marathi doctor in pune,
i wish to tell you all that u all r very intelligent people & i request u to look up to going at top of world as a nation. & with this kind of politics we can go nowhere but down.
to add to those politicians now there is very cheap media.
i will request all of you that let us bring down such media & politcos.
all of us should stop watching news. look at the other days camaign that world is going to end.
& i know what is behind this cheap media remark it is that we trust them & watch them so as to increasing there TRP & in turn money.
Pls INDIA WAKE UP>>>>>
Hi all,
I read some where that european union is now cutting their expenses on army and are planning to have a common army for each EU member country.
They have already desolve their currency. They have now a common visa for EU.
When I read all this, it seem like are we the same Indians(Mera Bharat Mahan?) who are having the world’s best culture(?).
Don’t these guys have any work apart from “she said that”.. “he said that”.
Its shameful.
I don’t have words to say to all these politicians.
If they cant understand(and they will never), but we are good people. Lets stop this nonsense. And the best way to do it to stop talking about it.
Mera Bharat Pareshan!
What a sheer waste of time… come on guys do something constructive .. speak in any language who really cares .. don’t marathi ppl speak in hindi and english in their homes .. so is that an insult to marathi
. Ask any common marathi manoos or any other common man in india what language he wants his child to be fluent in – english or their regional language if only one is to be selected and he will surely answer english 
. Language in itself is soo gr8 .. no one can make a fun of it just like that.
So to end the matter in a good note I request kind hearted people to donate whatever possible to the Bihar flood victims. The below is UNICEF link.
https://www.supportunicefindia.org/Donation/BiharEmergencyPage.aspx
Hope as INDIANS we can do it again.
Deep and Saikat…. you know what … you both are really cheap…. crap… do you know anything what are you talking about… Both of you really need to cultivate yourself from the scrach…
oopssssss…….
I seriously dont have time to write like you… but wanted to express my feelings… like deep always wants… no matter if it hurts anyone or not…
RIDICULOUS….
By the way.. rajesh.. thanks for showing right direction to Saiket…
Saiket I advised you to be in mumbai… it’s very easy to say or react anything when you are not part of that…
just being in sweeden and talking all these nonsense does not make any sense…
And you deep.. lets see .. whether you keep this post or not… it’s now intersting to see how both of you going to react on this…
Assamese would have cut the offenders into half…like they did…
Mr Thakray is much peaceful…
Respect is reciprocal of respect..
In maharashtra…respect maharashtrians, their language, their sentiments, their feelings..anybody thinking otherwise must be treated with contempt..
So Milind, Tell me your views on the issue.. what you would have done? haha No comments on that?
We are not here for personal wars, discuss on the issue.. if you do not agree with anyone’s point of view.. express it, express the reason..
Saying just “crap” just shows the kid which is popping up inside you.. LOL
From now on, no personal comments, I will delete the personal comments.. discuss on the issue only.
cheers
Deep
So deep… thus how you have been trapped…
I didnot have any bad intention. Everything I said deliberately … You got hurt .. right ?
( Regarding the view on this issue.. i said in this way..which you didn’t understand I suppose )
Same way.. I really got hurt when Jaya Bachhan said like that..
I just wanted to hurt you and saikat… ( I strongly believe that both of you will say that you didn’t get hurt…)
Now, Please don’t say like that was different issue.. It depends person by person… You may get hurt by another thing.
I believe you don’t have guts to keep the post of that person who says striaght forwardly..
This blog is belongs to you that doesn’t mean I should say all goody goody about you.
This is what you say freedom…… hahahahahaha … I really pitty you.
If I stay at your house for a long time… and abuse you … how will you feel ?
Don’t behave like kiddish .. and say i will delete the personal comment…laughing at you…
whatever you said before, wasn’t it your personal comment ?
Be champ dear….