Comments on: So, what actually went wrong with BJP? http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:01:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Avni Patel http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/comment-page-1/#comment-303419 Avni Patel Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:58:22 +0000 http://www.whoisdeep.com/?p=941#comment-303419 not a BJP person ...i m from congress family... not a BJP person …i m from congress family…

]]> By: MM http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/comment-page-1/#comment-294449 MM Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:04:48 +0000 http://www.whoisdeep.com/?p=941#comment-294449 I will like to say something on reservation. For that is the thing that bothers me most. Don't blame Congress alone for reservation. Reservation is a curse on India. But it was first introduced by VP Singh. And no political party objected against it. Not even the pseudo-secular communists. All the political parties are equally to be blamed. BJP was in power for 5 years. They din't have the guts to abolish quota system. Did they? So why blame Congress alone. Not that I am a big supporter of Congress. But show me a single party who will speak against reservation and I'll vote for them. :-) As for BJP, they are a pretty medieval party. Seriously, people have more bread-and-butter issues than to be concerned about destroying mosques or building temples. I will like to say something on reservation. For that is the thing that bothers me most. Don’t blame Congress alone for reservation. Reservation is a curse on India. But it was first introduced by VP Singh. And no political party objected against it. Not even the pseudo-secular communists. All the political parties are equally to be blamed. BJP was in power for 5 years. They din’t have the guts to abolish quota system. Did they? So why blame Congress alone. Not that I am a big supporter of Congress. But show me a single party who will speak against reservation and I’ll vote for them. :-)

As for BJP, they are a pretty medieval party. Seriously, people have more bread-and-butter issues than to be concerned about destroying mosques or building temples.

]]> By: John http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/comment-page-1/#comment-284474 John Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:15:23 +0000 http://www.whoisdeep.com/?p=941#comment-284474 What went wrong were two things.The first their differences with RSS.Remember,it was hindutva which got BJP into power.Now,you can't take a U-Turn and stay away from Sangh.It is necessary for BJP to accomodate RSS people at every level of its organisation,otherwise,it would never return to power again.Second reason is 5th Pay Commission.Some will be surprised but it is one of the reasons why the BJP lost.Bereaucracy in India has always been a committed Vote-Bank of Congress party.They have been entrusted with no responsibility by the govt,yet they are getting one pay commission after anoter.So,this class was obviously happy with their full wallets and has highly voted for the Congress Party. What went wrong were two things.The first their differences with RSS.Remember,it was hindutva which got BJP into power.Now,you can’t take a U-Turn and stay away from Sangh.It is necessary for BJP to accomodate RSS people at every level of its organisation,otherwise,it would never return to power again.Second reason is 5th Pay Commission.Some will be surprised but it is one of the reasons why the BJP lost.Bereaucracy in India has always been a committed Vote-Bank of Congress party.They have been entrusted with no responsibility by the govt,yet they are getting one pay commission after anoter.So,this class was obviously happy with their full wallets and has highly voted for the Congress Party.

]]> By: Manish Sinha http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/comment-page-1/#comment-281993 Manish Sinha Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:57:52 +0000 http://www.whoisdeep.com/?p=941#comment-281993 <blockquote>Narendra Modi is(no doubt) a very good CM and but he is a very strong HINDUTVA HARDLINER….and last but not least he is star campaigner who is campaigning for BJP with 225 rallies in one and a half month all over India….now tell me BJP is not Anti-Muslim…</blockquote> You look brain-washed by Secular Parties. :) Hindutva never means hating other religions. In this case Muslim League should instantly be declared Communal! Star-campaigner means one is communal? You have redefined each and every term. Read your comment again and try whether it makes some sense or not.

Narendra Modi is(no doubt) a very good CM and but he is a very strong HINDUTVA HARDLINER….and last but not least he is star campaigner who is campaigning for BJP with 225 rallies in one and a half month all over India….now tell me BJP is not Anti-Muslim…

You look brain-washed by Secular Parties. :)

Hindutva never means hating other religions. In this case Muslim League should instantly be declared Communal! Star-campaigner means one is communal?

You have redefined each and every term. Read your comment again and try whether it makes some sense or not.

]]> By: Ashish http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/comment-page-1/#comment-281664 Ashish Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:34:44 +0000 http://www.whoisdeep.com/?p=941#comment-281664 To all the pro-reservation guys/gals .... Is reservation in education only way to uplift the backward people? Why should they be uplifted at the cost of other more deserving students? Government of India collects a few thousand crores as education cess. Can they not build schools, colleges, libraries, etc.? Provide them facilities and then let them work hard to earn their seats on merit in higher education. To all the pro-reservation guys/gals ….

Is reservation in education only way to uplift the backward people?
Why should they be uplifted at the cost of other more deserving students?

Government of India collects a few thousand crores as education cess. Can they not build schools, colleges, libraries, etc.? Provide them facilities and then let them work hard to earn their seats on merit in higher education.

]]> By: Renjith Nair http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/comment-page-1/#comment-280726 Renjith Nair Wed, 27 May 2009 09:41:51 +0000 http://www.whoisdeep.com/?p=941#comment-280726 http://renjithmn.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/muthalikram-sene-and-election-2009/ http://renjithmn.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/muthalikram-sene-and-election-2009/

]]> By: Nipon http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/comment-page-1/#comment-280005 Nipon Thu, 21 May 2009 22:16:28 +0000 http://www.whoisdeep.com/?p=941#comment-280005 I will like to say something on reservation. For that is the thing that bothers me most. Don't blame Congress alone for reservation. Reservation is a curse on India. But it was first introduced by VP Singh. And no political party objected against it. Not even the pseudo-secular communists. All the political parties are equally to be blamed. BJP was in power for 5 years. They din't have the guts to abolish quota system. Did they? So why blame Congress alone. Not that I am a big supporter of Congress. But show me a single party who will speak against reservation and I'll vote for them. :-) As for BJP, they are a pretty medieval party. Seriously, people have more bread-and-butter issues than to be concerned about destroying mosques or building temples. I will like to say something on reservation. For that is the thing that bothers me most. Don’t blame Congress alone for reservation. Reservation is a curse on India. But it was first introduced by VP Singh. And no political party objected against it. Not even the pseudo-secular communists. All the political parties are equally to be blamed. BJP was in power for 5 years. They din’t have the guts to abolish quota system. Did they? So why blame Congress alone. Not that I am a big supporter of Congress. But show me a single party who will speak against reservation and I’ll vote for them. :-)

As for BJP, they are a pretty medieval party. Seriously, people have more bread-and-butter issues than to be concerned about destroying mosques or building temples.

]]> By: Deep http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/comment-page-1/#comment-279625 Deep Tue, 19 May 2009 09:18:53 +0000 http://www.whoisdeep.com/?p=941#comment-279625 Hi Bimal, From what I understand, the whole issue related to forced conversions happening around in India. RSS has stated clearly that, they are not against any Christians or anyone but they are against forced conversions. The government is not doing anything to stop the forced conversion. Check this article: http://rssonnet.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=26 According to the article, it is mentioned that, many attempts of reporting to the government went in vain and if that is true, then this kind of violence was bound to happen. But if it isn't true, then the government should make sure that whoever is involved should get strict punishment so that no one else dares to repeat this kind of incident. Regards, Deep Hi Bimal,

From what I understand, the whole issue related to forced conversions happening around in India. RSS has stated clearly that, they are not against any Christians or anyone but they are against forced conversions.

The government is not doing anything to stop the forced conversion.

Check this article: http://rssonnet.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=26

According to the article, it is mentioned that, many attempts of reporting to the government went in vain and if that is true, then this kind of violence was bound to happen.

But if it isn’t true, then the government should make sure that whoever is involved should get strict punishment so that no one else dares to repeat this kind of incident.

Regards,
Deep

]]> By: Bimal http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/comment-page-1/#comment-279623 Bimal Tue, 19 May 2009 07:44:54 +0000 http://www.whoisdeep.com/?p=941#comment-279623 Can you please make me understand the situation in Kandhamal(orissa). The naxalites demanded the responsibility of killing of the VHP leader. But the VHP and RSS went on rampage killing, burning houses and church, rape the christians. It not only damaged the image about orissa, whole india in international arena. I agree that VHP, RSS do a lot of social works, but a single incident like this destroy all the good work they do. I think this incident played a huge role for the downfall of BJP in orissa. They even failed to open their account. Can you please make me understand the situation in Kandhamal(orissa).

The naxalites demanded the responsibility of killing of the VHP leader. But the VHP and RSS went on rampage killing, burning houses and church, rape the christians. It not only damaged the image about orissa, whole india in international arena.
I agree that VHP, RSS do a lot of social works, but a single incident like this destroy all the good work they do.

I think this incident played a huge role for the downfall of BJP in orissa. They even failed to open their account.

]]> By: Deep http://www.whoisdeep.com/2009/05/16/so-what-actually-went-wrong-with-bjp/comment-page-1/#comment-279471 Deep Sun, 17 May 2009 19:34:36 +0000 http://www.whoisdeep.com/?p=941#comment-279471 vj_p - Secularism doesn't mean that they want to stand on their own.. it means, they don't believe in castes and religions.. check the definition I have posted in my earlier comment. Yes Modi is Hindutva leader but if you are pro-Hindu, it doesn't mean that you are anti-Muslim or against any other cast. Being a Hindu, he will obviously work for well being of Hindu caste and I don't see anything wrong in it. 225 rallies in one and half month has no relation with Hindutva or anything, it is for purely political purpose. Modi as PM - I am not sure if BJP raised this issue, infact Media asked the people, other parties commented on it.. and the issue became big. About the video - Yes, I have seen that video at the time it was out.. but it nowhere proves that he is guilty. My point is, if he has done something wrong, prove it and give him the worst punishment so no other leader can do such things. But if you cannot prove it, don't atleast spoil the name just for the votes. Don't mislead people. Cheers, Deep vj_p – Secularism doesn’t mean that they want to stand on their own.. it means, they don’t believe in castes and religions.. check the definition I have posted in my earlier comment.

Yes Modi is Hindutva leader but if you are pro-Hindu, it doesn’t mean that you are anti-Muslim or against any other cast. Being a Hindu, he will obviously work for well being of Hindu caste and I don’t see anything wrong in it.

225 rallies in one and half month has no relation with Hindutva or anything, it is for purely political purpose.

Modi as PM – I am not sure if BJP raised this issue, infact Media asked the people, other parties commented on it.. and the issue became big.

About the video – Yes, I have seen that video at the time it was out.. but it nowhere proves that he is guilty. My point is, if he has done something wrong, prove it and give him the worst punishment so no other leader can do such things. But if you cannot prove it, don’t atleast spoil the name just for the votes. Don’t mislead people.

Cheers,
Deep

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